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[doc] ctypes: use_errno=True does not work #52008

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[doc] ctypes: use_errno=True does not work#52008
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mannequin
opened on Jan 23, 2010
BPO 7760
Nosy @amauryfa, @abalkin, @meadori, @eryksun, @iritkatriel
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    assignee = 'https://github.com/theller'
closed_at = None
created_at = <Date 2010-01-23.00:18:56.292>
labels = ['easy', 'ctypes', 'type-feature', '3.11', 'docs']
title = '[doc] ctypes: use_errno=True does not work'
updated_at = <Date 2021-05-18.20:36:39.807>
user = 'https://bugs.python.org/nikratio'

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    activity = <Date 2021-05-18.20:36:39.807>
actor = 'eryksun'
assignee = 'theller'
closed = False
closed_date = None
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components = ['Documentation', 'ctypes']
creation = <Date 2010-01-23.00:18:56.292>
creator = 'nikratio'
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issue_num = 7760
keywords = ['easy']
message_count = 8.0
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priority = 'normal'
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stage = 'needs patch'
status = 'open'
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type = 'enhancement'
url = 'https://bugs.python.org/issue7760'
versions = ['Python 3.11']

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    1. nikratio commented on Jan 23, 2010

      @nikratio
      nikratiomannequin
      on Jan 23, 2010
      MannequinAuthor

      On my system (Ubuntu Karmic, Python 2.6.4 (r264:75706, Dec 7 2009, 18:45:15), Kernel 2.6.31-17-generic, libc6 2.10.1-0ubuntu16) the attached test script produces the following output:

      Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "test1.py", line 27, in <module>
    raise OSError(err, os.strerror(err), path)
OSError: [Errno 0] Success: '/does/not/exist'

      So the function call failed, but the errno provided by ctypes is zero.

      (There are two variants of construction the getxattr() foreign function in the script and both produce the same result).

    2. nikratio
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      type-bugAn unexpected behavior, bug, or error
      on Jan 23, 2010
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    5. marcinbachry commented on Jan 23, 2010

      @marcinbachry
      marcinbachrymannequin
      on Jan 23, 2010
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      In the libc case you shouldn't give absolute path in CDLL: CDLL('libc.so.6') is better. You use "/lib/libc.so.6" path, but Python (and ctypes.so) actually uses something like "/lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6" - these are two separate libraries with separate "errno" variables, mapped to different memory regions. Your call to getxattr modifies errno in the former library, but ctypes get_errno() fetches value from the latter library.

      If I fix CDLL() call, the test works ok for me.

    6. nikratio commented on Jan 23, 2010

      @nikratio
      nikratiomannequin
      on Jan 23, 2010
      MannequinAuthor

      I can confirm that without the path it works for me too.

      But I have to admit that I don't really understand your explanation. Should I generally not use full paths with CDLL? Or just in the case of libc?

      In either case, I think the ctypes dokumentation could be more explicit about this.

    7. BreamoreBoy commented on May 21, 2013

      @BreamoreBoy
      BreamoreBoymannequin
      on May 21, 2013
      Mannequin

      Would someone like to propose a documentation patch that clarifies this situation.

    8. MattJones commented on May 22, 2013

      @MattJones
      MattJonesmannequin
      on May 22, 2013
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      Is this really a documentation issue? Is it not generally understood that using absolute paths to libraries is a bad idea due to the amount of PATH/symlink spaghetti that the average file system contains?

    9. nikratio commented on May 24, 2013

      @nikratio
      nikratiomannequin
      on May 24, 2013
      MannequinAuthor

      Matt, I believe in that case it's still a documentation issue, because then the documentation probably should say that using absolute paths to libraries is a bad idea in general.

    10. vstinner
      changed the title [-]use_errno=True does not work[/-] [+]ctypes: use_errno=True does not work[/+] on May 25, 2013

    11. iritkatriel commented on May 18, 2021

      @iritkatriel
      iritkatriel
      on May 18, 2021
      Member

      The recommendation not to use absolute paths in CDLL is still not mentioned in the docs:
      https://docs.python.org/3/library/ctypes.html#ctypes.CDLL

      Adding the (active) ctypes experts to nosy.

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      changed the title [-]ctypes: use_errno=True does not work[/-] [+][doc] ctypes: use_errno=True does not work[/+] on May 18, 2021

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      pythongh-52008: document that absolute paths can break use_errno=True…

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      pythongh-52008: fix RST cross-reference and unclosed parenthesis in note

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      gh-52008: Document that `ctypes.CDLL` can only observe `errno` from i…

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    22. ZeroIntensity commented on Oct 12, 2026

      @ZeroIntensity
      ZeroIntensity
      on Oct 12, 2026
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      The issue described here is obsolete since Ubuntu doesn't have multiple libc versions anymore, but I did add a note to the docs saying that the library must use the same errno as ctypes for it to work. Backports are on auto-merge.

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      [3.14] gh-52008: Document that `ctypes.CDLL` can only observe `errno`…

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